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		<title>Comment on The Myth of African Poverty by jack</title>
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		<description>thanks for your comment skulb - pretty much agreed. in the UK less than 5% are in manufacturing - and most of that is guns and bombs, or Jap cars.

we exist on &#039;added value&#039;, not real value - image and finance, smoke and mirrors, intellectual property - i.e. patent and copyright (and money + interest) - no more than opinion, but held in place by laws fabricated by those who benefit. in other words, poppycock.

and yes, i fear, as you say, power elites are thinking it&#039;s time for a cull.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your comment skulb &#8211; pretty much agreed. in the UK less than 5% are in manufacturing &#8211; and most of that is guns and bombs, or Jap cars.</p>
<p>we exist on &#8216;added value&#8217;, not real value &#8211; image and finance, smoke and mirrors, intellectual property &#8211; i.e. patent and copyright (and money + interest) &#8211; no more than opinion, but held in place by laws fabricated by those who benefit. in other words, poppycock.</p>
<p>and yes, i fear, as you say, power elites are thinking it&#8217;s time for a cull.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Myth of African Poverty by skulb</title>
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		<description>Amen to this. 

But remember that western societies are also being consciously destabilized through economics at the moment. It is apparently better to spread the enforced poverty of Africa around the world instead of developing the 3rd world.
If you think this is a dubious claim then think about what the economy really is in a healthy society. It is PRODUCTION of goods and essential services, while in monetarist globalism it has been perverted into FINANCE, which is something else entirely.

Finance is currencies and the relations between them, symbols of the real economy supporting them. We are atm assigning all importance to finance and none to production. In fact we are deindustrializing at an alarming rate, moving whatever is left to the third world to maximize financial profits. Our infrastructure is crumbling because of this, education and health follows down the drain.

For any society to thrive it needs meaningful production, not superfluous services. The US for example has gone from about 60% of labor engaged in production in various forms, to currently about 20%(figures for this vary alot, but these are from Webster Tarpley). This means that a smaller part of the workforce need to support a growing number of nonproducing citizens. These are all selling burgers, delivering pizzas, being lawyers, hairdressers, interior decorators, real estate brokers and a multitude of other things that are totally pointless economically. 
They are however superb at raking in a quick buck, because the costs are lower and the workforce can be kept in disorganized squalor. Industrial and agricultural producers had a nasty tendency to organize themselves, which is really bad for profits.

Considering this situation...

...tradition will show you that rulers will always use any means they can find to dispose of surplus populations, war being a classic favorite. Enforced famines and plagues can also do the trick. My point is that when nearly all of us are unproductive and disorganized we are, to all extents and purposes, expendable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to this. </p>
<p>But remember that western societies are also being consciously destabilized through economics at the moment. It is apparently better to spread the enforced poverty of Africa around the world instead of developing the 3rd world.<br />
If you think this is a dubious claim then think about what the economy really is in a healthy society. It is PRODUCTION of goods and essential services, while in monetarist globalism it has been perverted into FINANCE, which is something else entirely.</p>
<p>Finance is currencies and the relations between them, symbols of the real economy supporting them. We are atm assigning all importance to finance and none to production. In fact we are deindustrializing at an alarming rate, moving whatever is left to the third world to maximize financial profits. Our infrastructure is crumbling because of this, education and health follows down the drain.</p>
<p>For any society to thrive it needs meaningful production, not superfluous services. The US for example has gone from about 60% of labor engaged in production in various forms, to currently about 20%(figures for this vary alot, but these are from Webster Tarpley). This means that a smaller part of the workforce need to support a growing number of nonproducing citizens. These are all selling burgers, delivering pizzas, being lawyers, hairdressers, interior decorators, real estate brokers and a multitude of other things that are totally pointless economically.<br />
They are however superb at raking in a quick buck, because the costs are lower and the workforce can be kept in disorganized squalor. Industrial and agricultural producers had a nasty tendency to organize themselves, which is really bad for profits.</p>
<p>Considering this situation&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;tradition will show you that rulers will always use any means they can find to dispose of surplus populations, war being a classic favorite. Enforced famines and plagues can also do the trick. My point is that when nearly all of us are unproductive and disorganized we are, to all extents and purposes, expendable.</p>
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